Air Travel

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I refuse to fly. Totally unsafe. If I can’t walk or drive to the destination in question, I don’t go. As for the indelicate subject of plane crashes… "It’s not the fall, it’s the sudden stop." Regards, Irving * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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>I refuse to fly. Totally unsafe. If I can’t walk or drive to the >destination in question, I don’t go. As for the indelicate >subject of plane crashes… >"It’s not the fall, it’s the sudden stop."

But isn’t that also true of auto accidents? You certainly have a lot of faith in the quality of people driving a car — more power to you, although I know whom I’d have more faith in. Highly trained and regulated people versus most anybody who reportedly knows at least the basic rules, nevermind adhering to it at all times. -Dan

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> The truth is I am scared to death to fly on an airplane.I haven’t > flown in one > in since 1983.

1) Drive out to the nearest major airport. 2) Park by the end of the runway where you can watch the planes come in and take off. 3) Watch.  Planes will arrive and depart constantly. 4) Now think about all of the other airports in the country, and in the world.  Planes are departing and arriving at all of them.  Chances are, some of those arirports are bigger than yours and have even more planes arriving and departing all the time. 5) Consider that this occurs 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 52 weeks a year. 6) Realize just how rarely something goes wrong. * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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> >Are you scared when a bus hits a bump on a road ? Then don’t be when a plane does. > Heck, I’d be scared if a plane hits a bump on a road … > — Craig

Bertie might be concerned if it hit a Bunyip in the road, too   8^)

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >:>> > And it is incredibly safe overall.  The cold, hard >statistics >:>> > clearly illustrate this. >:>> >:>> When I was on a ledge on a bridge, some 40 metres above a >cold New >:>Zealand >:>> river in a canyon, I was green. (snip) >:> >:>"40 metres"…what’s that in real measurements?  10 feet?  100 >feet? >:> >:>(By 1980, every American must know the metric system…yeah, >right!O) >:>;-) >: >:A meter is approximately the same as a yard, which even us dumb >:Americans should understand. So 40 meters is about 120 feet. >:HTH. >: >now yes you are right Ellen…a metre is close to a yard!! but 40 >metres is >not close to 120ft close to and more like 130ft!!

That’s why I said ‘ABOUT 120 feet’. Rome wasn’t built in a day.

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Take a look at the latest issue of Men’s Health magazine, page 98. I, too, experience anxiety when flying. This article, profiles an individual with similar "fears" and how he dealt with them.  Plus, it includes some information regarding airline safety. * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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If you call your airline, they can recommend an air-travel-phobia course in your local area. My mother is taking one and finding it very useful. It includes both information and relaxation techniques. The latter seem to be effective. Julian C. Lander ** Standard disclaimer, please ** – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Take a look at the latest issue of Men’s Health magazine, page 98. > I, too, experience anxiety when flying. > This article, profiles an individual with similar "fears" and how he > dealt with them.  Plus, it includes some information regarding airline > safety. > * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * > The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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And so you should be!! * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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>Take a look at the latest issue of Men’s Health magazine, page 98.

um, isnt this Cosmo for men? dating and belt/shoe co-ordination articles mixed in with how to check your own prostate? whoops sorry back on topic… air travel! -g

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> "40 metres"…what’s that in real measurements?  10 feet?  100 feet?

It’s over 120 ft.  I’m a pretty adventurous guy, but, crowd or not, I think *I’d* pass on this one. — Regards, IM Before you buy.

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>> > And it is incredibly safe overall.  The cold, hard statistics > > clearly illustrate this. > When I was on a ledge on a bridge, some 40 metres above a cold New >Zealand > river in a canyon, I was green. (snip) >"40 metres"…what’s that in real measurements?  10 feet?  100 feet? >(By 1980, every American must know the metric system…yeah, right!O) >;-)

A meter is approximately the same as a yard, which even us dumb Americans should understand. So 40 meters is about 120 feet. HTH.

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:>> > And it is incredibly safe overall.  The cold, hard statistics :>> > clearly illustrate this. :>> :>> When I was on a ledge on a bridge, some 40 metres above a cold New :>Zealand :>> river in a canyon, I was green. (snip) :> :>"40 metres"…what’s that in real measurements?  10 feet?  100 feet? :> :>(By 1980, every American must know the metric system…yeah, right!O) :>;-) : :A meter is approximately the same as a yard, which even us dumb :Americans should understand. So 40 meters is about 120 feet. :HTH. : now yes you are right Ellen…a metre is close to a yard!! but 40 metres is not close to 120ft close to and more like 130ft!!

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> When I was on a ledge on a bridge, some 40 metres above a cold New Zealand >> river in a canyon, I was green. Those few moments before you jump seem like >> hours. In the end, I said to myself that nobody had died jumping from that >> bridge and so what if it felt bad for a few seconds, if I don’t do it, I’ll >> regret it. So, I looked at the river below and fell into it. Of course, >> when >> you have a crowd encouraging you to jump off a perfectly good bridge, it >> does >> help… >Were you on your bike? >   Amazingly enough, you *can* do it on a bike (not off the Kawarau >   bridge, though, which is what JF did, I suspect – big wussy, there >   are 102m and 134m jumps nearby).

That’s why I asked… — Weiyun [Remove the obvious for email replies]

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > And it is incredibly safe overall.  The cold, hard statistics > > clearly illustrate this. > When I was on a ledge on a bridge, some 40 metres above a cold New > Zealand > river in a canyon, I was green. (snip) > "40 metres"…what’s that in real measurements?  10 feet?  100 feet? > (By 1980, every American must know the metric system…yeah, right!O) > > Mike

You are out of touch with the rest of the world. American weirdo!  ;) — Weiyun [Remove the obvious for email replies]

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>> When I was on a ledge on a bridge, some 40 metres above a cold New Zealand > river in a canyon, I was green. Those few moments before you jump seem like > hours. In the end, I said to myself that nobody had died jumping from that > bridge and so what if it felt bad for a few seconds, if I don’t do it, I’ll > regret it. So, I looked at the river below and fell into it. Of course, when > you have a crowd encouraging you to jump off a perfectly good bridge, it does > help… >Were you on your bike?

  Amazingly enough, you *can* do it on a bike (not off the Kawarau   bridge, though, which is what JF did, I suspect – big wussy, there   are 102m and 134m jumps nearby).

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> > And it is incredibly safe overall.  The cold, hard statistics > clearly illustrate this. > When I was on a ledge on a bridge, some 40 metres above a cold New Zealand > river in a canyon, I was green. (snip)

"40 metres"…what’s that in real measurements?  10 feet?  100 feet? (By 1980, every American must know the metric system…yeah, right!O) Mike Before you buy.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > When I was on a ledge on a bridge, some 40 metres above a cold New Zealand > > river in a canyon, I was green. Those few moments before you jump seem > > like > > hours. In the end, I said to myself that nobody had died jumping from that > > bridge and so what if it felt bad for a few seconds, if I don’t do it, > > I’ll > > regret it. So, I looked at the river below and fell into it. Of course, > > when > > you have a crowd encouraging you to jump off a perfectly good bridge, it > > does > > help… > Were you on your bike? > No, but I was wearing my bike shoes. Never again ! Those thing don’t have a > grip on the wooden plank, and you can’t hop to the edge without the weight of > the bungee cord making you slip to the edge and beyond.

Ha ha… I can just imagine you losing your grip with those steel plated bike shoes and slipping off the plank… AHHHHHhhhhh….  ;) — Weiyun [Remove the obvious for email replies]

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> > And it is incredibly safe overall.  The cold, hard statistics > clearly illustrate this. > When I was on a ledge on a bridge, some 40 metres above a cold New Zealand > river in a canyon, I was green. Those few moments before you jump seem like > hours. In the end, I said to myself that nobody had died jumping from that > bridge and so what if it felt bad for a few seconds, if I don’t do it, I’ll > regret it. So, I looked at the river below and fell into it. Of course, when > you have a crowd encouraging you to jump off a perfectly good bridge, it does > help…

Were you on your bike? — Weiyun [Remove the obvious for email replies]

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> > When I was on a ledge on a bridge, some 40 metres above a cold New Zealand > river in a canyon, I was green. Those few moments before you jump seem like > hours. In the end, I said to myself that nobody had died jumping from that > bridge and so what if it felt bad for a few seconds, if I don’t do it, I’ll > regret it. So, I looked at the river below and fell into it. Of course, when > you have a crowd encouraging you to jump off a perfectly good bridge, it does > help… > Were you on your bike?

No, but I was wearing my bike shoes. Never again ! Those thing don’t have a grip on the wooden plank, and you can’t hop to the edge without the weight of the bungee cord making you slip to the edge and beyond.

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>The truth is I am scared to death to fly on an airplane.I haven’t flown in one >in since 1983. >Ironically, I had a jet set childhood,full of moves overseas to other countries >and exotic vacations,back then I had no fears of flying..I wonder where the new >fear came from.I think i’ve seen enough air disasters on TV… >I have gone out of my way to drive cross country on long road trips and turned >down oppertunities to travel again overseas.

The chance of you getting killed in your cross – country car trip is hundreds of times more likely than getting killed in a plane crash.

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> >The truth is I am scared to death to fly on an airplane.I haven’t flown in one >in since 1983. >Ironically, I had a jet set childhood,full of moves overseas to other countries >and exotic vacations,back then I had no fears of flying..I wonder where the new >fear came from.I think i’ve seen enough air disasters on TV… >I have gone out of my way to drive cross country on long road trips and turned >down oppertunities to travel again overseas. > The chance of you getting killed in your cross – country car trip is hundreds > of times more likely than getting killed in a plane crash.

DRIVING!?!, the chances are greater CROSSING THE STREET (walking)!!

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>>I have gone out of my way to drive cross country on long road trips and >turned >down oppertunities to travel again overseas.

Ah, this is a me too here…until about 2 years ago. I used to drive to college in Texas instead of flying! Now I have a ton less fear, and actually look forward to it. The only way I got over it was IMMERSING myself in flying- learning about planes, pilots, airlines and even crashes! Just understand how safe and safe-guarded this type of travel is! Sit back and enjoy the ride (and try not to choke on the lousy food!) -g

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> And it is incredibly safe overall.  The cold, hard statistics > clearly illustrate this.

When I was on a ledge on a bridge, some 40 metres above a cold New Zealand river in a canyon, I was green. Those few moments before you jump seem like hours. In the end, I said to myself that nobody had died jumping from that bridge and so what if it felt bad for a few seconds, if I don’t do it, I’ll regret it. So, I looked at the river below and fell into it. Of course, when you have a crowd encouraging you to jump off a perfectly good bridge, it does help… If flying really does scare you, you *really* have to say,:" ok, so I will be scared, but in the end, I will survive, and after the trip, I will be able to say that I conquered my fear". (Which is what jumping off a bridge forces you to do). And once you are on the plane, whenever something happens that makes you wonder, then just look around you to see if others are scared, or if they continue their business as usual.  That will give you a ptretty good indication that everything is still fine and what you just heard or felt is perfectly normal. Are you scared when a bus hits a bump on a road ? Then don’t be when a plane does.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>I have gone out of my way to drive cross country on long road trips and >turned >>down oppertunities to travel again overseas. > Ah, this is a me too here…until about 2 years ago. I used to drive to college > in Texas instead of flying! Now I have a ton less fear, and actually look > forward to it. > The only way I got over it was IMMERSING myself in flying- learning about > planes, pilots, airlines and even crashes! Just understand how safe and > safe-guarded this type of travel is!

And it is incredibly safe overall.  The cold, hard statistics clearly illustrate this.  I always try to pound this into the heads of fearful people.  Often times their fear is fueled by the sensationalistic blatherings of the dopey news media. Their irresponsible spewings skew the facts in a lot of people’s minds.  Don’t let the media yank *your* chain. — Regards, IM Before you buy.

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The truth is I am scared to death to fly on an airplane.I haven’t flown in one in since 1983. Ironically, I had a jet set childhood,full of moves overseas to other countries and exotic vacations,back then I had no fears of flying..I wonder where the new fear came from.I think i’ve seen enough air disasters on TV… I have gone out of my way to drive cross country on long road trips and turned down oppertunities to travel again overseas. This alternative has worked out until now.A promoter has offered  to pay all travel expenses,per diems,hotel ect…for a scheduled up coming event.As a member of the group I agreed to be a part of,I accepted the oppertunity.I would have rather driven if I had the time,but I don’t.I have to get to the event on a friday evening, and fly back for our residency by saturday for our regular show ontime. I would ask my doctor for something to put me to sleep or calm me down for the plane ride,but I need to be together and alert for both events.What can I do? Andrea

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